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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:47 pm 
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Let me know if you want me to do an FDM print of those in PAHT-CF (cf-reinforced high-temp PA nylon) - you can then fit the sleeves with a soldering iron - no machining required. Printed parts are supposed to have a working temp of almost 200C. Here's the spec sheet:


I might take you up on that. I have a filament printer but its pretty old and sad at this point.

I did put bushes in the resin printed parts and can now torque to my heart's content.....but it they fail I'll ping you!
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and while it feels like I step back as much as forward, this feels like forward
https://youtube.com/shorts/cB2uETAwpsc

I added some new code so cranking throttle is in crank position and timing is normal so it fires up nice, then drops to idle setting. Coming off idle there is a smooth transition in the timing which should make it a bit easier to get rollng form a stop, I'll test that bit tomorrow.

The new WB controllers are in and working and I still saw a little difference bank to bank so I settled on sync the TBs, adjust the bank linkage to get matching lambdas then resync down the banks. It seemed good tonight, hopefully its all still good tomorrow


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:39 pm 
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I might take you up on that. I have a filament printer but its pretty old and sad at this point.

I did put bushes in the resin printed parts and can now torque to my heart's content.....but it they fail I'll ping you!

They look great. I shot you an email in case you do decide you wanna have a go at the PA ones, it'll be easy to reach me.

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and while it feels like I step back as much as forward, this feels like forward

That looks amazing. There's such a wide gulf between something being bolted together and installed vs. actually having manners.

One of the most interesting things for me in this build is how hands-on you've been with the EngineLab ECU. I see that they have the EL129 on a super steep discount - is this ECU looking like a dead-end choice now and it's just on clearance, or is it still viable? Is there anyone else who loves this thing like you do? When I go looking for info about it, it seems like the results I get all lead back to this thread. :D


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:10 pm 
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Syscrush wrote:
They look great. I shot you an email in case you do decide you wanna have a go at the PA ones, it'll be easy to reach me.


Good thing you told me, it was in spam :(

Syscrush wrote:
That looks amazing. There's such a wide gulf between something being bolted together and installed vs. actually having manners.

One of the most interesting things for me in this build is how hands-on you've been with the EngineLab ECU. I see that they have the EL129 on a super steep discount - is this ECU looking like a dead-end choice now and it's just on clearance, or is it still viable? Is there anyone else who loves this thing like you do? When I go looking for info about it, it seems like the results I get all lead back to this thread. :D


Yeah, so......coil 1 was screaming the other day. The DWB has a similar sound and I was thinking something was wrong there but found the coil hot. I don't know is the coil failed (I still need to test it) and damaged the ECU or something in the ECU failed and caused the coil issue but coil output 1 in the ECU no longer works right and since I run waste spark cylinders 1&6 are dead. While there are 4 unused coil drivers, the software assigns them in order automatically and I can't change that so I need a replacement.

I do love what I can do with this ECU but as you say, its not clear they are still really a company. The sale price has been the price for ever really so its not a fire sale. I shot them an email so we'll see but I'm mentally preparing to need to find an alternative.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:25 am 
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Brutal.

Good luck with getting it sorted out! I would hate to see the EL go from this project, but I admit that I'm curious to see what you would do with ECUMaster or Haltech.


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I spent some time looking at the ecumaster pro16 and its pretty ok overall.  Its got a bazion I/O pins but not a lot of ways to use them that I could figure out.  The list of pre-defined outputs is fairly short and there are only 5 custom outputs which are pretty nice but its only 5 so no way to use more outputs, at least not that I saw.  Simple stuff like there is a defined channel for check engine light, but the only way I could see to use it other than to select it in a custom output.  Kind of the same in inputs, LOTS of pins available but how to use them?  Its a maybe at $2544

The haltech Nexus 5 seems quite good but more expensive .  But it allows 20 generic inputs and 20 generic outputs and can definitely do almost everything I currently do other than trim fuel from 12 MAPs, but it can read and display them.   Overall its the nicest I looked at today, but $4500 though, nearly double the price of their 8 cyl unit and the other options on the list 

The prices on the motec M150 have dropped but other than it is 12fuel/12spark its still pretty sad until you add a bunch of upgrades and they've removed the generic examples that I know were there once upon a time so there is no way to actually see if it can do what I want to do.  I think it mostly can?  I know if I add the $2400 development license i can make it do everything my enginelab could do (except log, that;s another $400 for basic, $1500 for  good),  but there does not appear to be anyway to know what lesser licenses do other than a generic feature list.   But plus side it looks like if I order from Oz an M150 with the basic GPA license can be had for $2500+ shipping & connectors and from what I could see in the 1 example it will probably mostly work?

The enginelab website will take my order for a replacement, just plug it in and I'm done. $1900

There are no manuals anymore so I have to downloads the software and go through it with whatever in application help there is so its slow and maybe I just mis what I was looking for not really knowing what they call it or where it might be found.

oh and no oil puddle Friday after running Thursday, but a huge puddle today after running Friday. No idea what's up with that.


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I lied. I got a drink and spent a couple hours looking at what I could do with a rusEFI Huge for $825 with the connectors

https://www.shop.rusefi.com/shop/p/rusefi-huge

I have an open question on the current rating for the H-bridges....so can it drive my 7A actuator.

Its open source so a little lite on support but it looks like it can do everything except the MAP cylinder trim and TB sync if I learn to work the scripting that lets you add custom features. I MIGHT be able to make the TB sync display work with the 2 custom gauges that are available and CAN info for the reading and a CAN selector to tell it which reading to display. It doesn't look bad if the H-bridge has the current I need.


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mk e wrote:
I spent some time looking at the ecumaster pro16 and its pretty ok overall.  Its got a bazion I/O pins but not a lot of ways to use them that I could figure out.  The list of pre-defined outputs is fairly short and there are only 5 custom outputs which are pretty nice but its only 5 so no way to use more outputs, at least not that I saw.  Simple stuff like there is a defined channel for check engine light, but the only way I could see to use it other than to select it in a custom output.  Kind of the same in inputs, LOTS of pins available but how to use them?  Its a maybe at $2544

The haltech Nexus 5 seems quite good but more expensive .  But it allows 20 generic inputs and 20 generic outputs and can definitely do almost everything I currently do other than trim fuel from 12 MAPs, but it can read and display them.   Overall its the nicest I looked at today, but $4500 though, nearly double the price of their 8 cyl unit and the other options on the list 

The prices on the motec M150 have dropped but other than it is 12fuel/12spark its still pretty sad until you add a bunch of upgrades and they've removed the generic examples that I know were there once upon a time so there is no way to actually see if it can do what I want to do.  I think it mostly can?  I know if I add the $2400 development license i can make it do everything my enginelab could do (except log, that;s another $400 for basic, $1500 for  good),  but there does not appear to be anyway to know what lesser licenses do other than a generic feature list.   But plus side it looks like if I order from Oz an M150 with the basic GPA license can be had for $2500+ shipping & connectors and from what I could see in the 1 example it will probably mostly work?

The enginelab website will take my order for a replacement, just plug it in and I'm done. $1900

There are no manuals anymore so I have to downloads the software and go through it with whatever in application help there is so its slow and maybe I just mis what I was looking for not really knowing what they call it or where it might be found.

oh and no oil puddle Friday after running Thursday, but a huge puddle today after running Friday. No idea what's up with that.


Dear Sir, I have followed your "build" for many years ("on a distance"...) and is of course very impressed, to say the least.

As I have done some harness build for some modified cars I have worked (not tuned) with DTA, MoTeC , Pectel (mostly MoTeC). The latest ECU I was asked to work with was MaxxECU and that system impressed me a lot.
As far as I understand you are doing a bit for research, and perhaps I may suggest that you take a look at this system?
https://maxxecu.com/

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/Christian C

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mk e wrote:
I spent some time looking at the ..........


I have followed your work fore many years and I am very impressed by your commitment to finalize your project.
Thanks for letting us be part of your jorney.

You are looking for an ECU can do "everything", have you heard of MaxxECU?
I have worked (not so much tuning, but some) with DTA, MoTeC, Pectel and lately MaxxECU.
(I am building harness for some cars...)

I think MaxxECU is by far the most versatile system (for the money) today of these.

( https://maxxecu.com/ )

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LOLA-Christian wrote:
mk e wrote:
I spent some time looking at the ..........


I have followed your work fore many years and I am very impressed by your commitment to finalize your project.
Thanks for letting us be part of your jorney.

You are looking for an ECU can do "everything", have you heard of MaxxECU?
I have worked (not so much tuning, but some) with DTA, MoTeC, Pectel and lately MaxxECU.
(I am building harness for some cars...)

I think MaxxECU is by far the most versatile system (for the money) today of these.

( https://maxxecu.com/ )


Welcome. Sorry for the delay getting you approved but your posts should work fine now

I found the maxxeco pro last night and just pinged them asking for H-Bridge amp rating and connector info as i don't see either in the listing. The plan for tonight is download and play with the software.

Ive also reached out to enginelab to see if:
1) repair is possible
2) is there an actual 12 cyl version kicking around anywhere, they made them and mine has the hw but the fw doesn't drive them
3) status on new


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Got through the maxxecu pro the software and manual tonight, There are many things I like and I can get it to do all the think I currently do other than the cylinder trims, The CAN support looks top shelf, I could probably put that to good use.

..... but I have no idea how its calculating the fuel. Its asking questions in odd ways so I really wonder why. It honestly feels like the actual engine control is an after thought. If I buy 1 of these I'd need ot run it on the bench first I think to understand what its doing so I know how to setup everything.

No response yet from enginelab on if mine can be repaired or what all they have in stock....I'll give it a few days though.


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