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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:55 pm 
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mk e wrote:
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........ thought it'd be runnin' by now.


I've been thinking that for about 7 years now :cry:


Considering what you have done . It's coming on bloody brilliantly . Keep at it :D


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:36 am 
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A couple more little diversions.

Lana had me edging and mulching all week and then I promised John I'd have a look at his intake
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and the VW continues to perplex me....off to the dealer now to order stuff and see if it helps.

Hopefully this nonsense will all end in a couple weeks and I'll be back to V12 exhaust. If it gets much later first run may be on an engine dyno rather than in the car which is probably better but......I really want to to roll this year.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:22 pm 
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If it gets much later first run may be on an engine dyno rather than in the car which is probably better but......I really want to to roll this year.


You know it really needs to be run in on the dyno first :) Then you can break it in "just right", sort out any leaks easily, and if something does go "bang" you don't have to shoehorn it out & back in the car again. Plus you only need a minimal wiring harness for the dyno.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:09 pm 
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cribbj wrote:

You know it really needs to be run in on the dyno first :) Then you can break it in "just right", sort out any leaks easily, and if something does go "bang" you don't have to shoehorn it out & back in the car again. Plus you only need a minimal wiring harness for the dyno.



I know, I know.......but its not so simple with screw ball stuff, I 'need to make parts to mount it to the dyno and wiring is not so trivial either wiht the number of connection this thing has. I'll bet I'd be 2 months from the time I get to the dyno to the day it's ready to try....and the engine's already in the car so I can do all the final fab work which has to be done prior to dyno testing.

We'll see but my plan is was to finish the fab work and just try it....and if it works then great, but if not then it comes out and off to the dyno.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:30 pm 
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Is it even oil tight without the transmission bolted up? Would you have to fab a dyno oil pan to put just the engine on the dyno?


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Is it even oil tight without the transmission bolted up? Would you have to fab a dyno oil pan to put just the engine on the dyno?


A custom pan or the trans needs to stay on,..and I think it can stay on and just pull the drop gear/bellhousing stuff off. I looked at it a few years back when I was visiting Kevin (KKrace) and we popped over to competizione (http://www.competizionecars.com/) who have a nice dyno setup and seemed very willing to help out getting it onto their dyno...but a lot of stuff to buy/make. I was thinking $1000-$2000 before it was ready to try, then 10ish hours for run-in and another...2-3 days at least for tuning so a full week on the dyno before I stat messing with cams timing or building tuned airboxes and such. Time and money can add up pretty fast and its a 3+ hour drive to get their so a big investment of both time and money.


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I've found the engine dyno guys will often just charge a flat rate and/or simply let you stay on it indefinitely if it's an "interesting" project. It's good press for their shop. I don't know if Competizione are that way, but it might be worth asking?

I think your timing is about right - I plan for a week with my supercharged V8's, but when it's just a simple breakin with a Holley and an EDIS ignition, I can be on/off in 2 days. Now that we have all the adapters, headers, dyno harness etc. ready to go, it's an afternoon to rig up, then we run it in the next morning and rig down that afternoon.

Once the supercharger, EFI, and EMS go on, it turns into a tuning session, and that can add a day or two.


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cribbj wrote:
I've found the engine dyno guys will often just charge a flat rate and/or simply let you stay on it indefinitely if it's an "interesting" project. It's good press for their shop. I don't know if Competizione are that way, but it might be worth asking?

I think your timing is about right - I plan for a week with my supercharged V8's, but when it's just a simple breakin with a Holley and an EDIS ignition, I can be on/off in 2 days. Now that we have all the adapters, headers, dyno harness etc. ready to go, it's an afternoon to rig up, then we run it in the next morning and rig down that afternoon.

Once the supercharger, EFI, and EMS go on, it turns into a tuning session, and that can add a day or two.


They basically made that offer when I was there....I think the words were "we'll work it out" or similar so I' not concerned about that.

The bigger issue is getting it mounted and hooked up to everything because I don't have all the adapters, harness, headers (that will fit), etc....if I can't use the headers I have that's $2k-$3k and a month of work right there. Then with Speed-Density or alpha-n tuning everything had to be as it will be in the car for the tuning to be any good. So going to an engine dyno is great but not a trivial exercise on something custom like a frankenferrari

Right now the plans remains to finish the fab work with the engine is the car....and try it. If it starts and runs I'll probably take it to a chassis dyno. If It doesn't start and the engine needs to come back out then I'll probably head down the engine dyno path and plan to have it fully sorted and back in the car for next spring.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:07 pm 
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Almost finished the mulch tonight....tomorrow. Saturday morning I pick up a VW part and hopefully that thing gets fixed and on to John's intake. fingers crossed I'll be back the the V12 next week.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:59 pm 
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What's been going on Mark?

Show us something. Anything. Back yard, the kids playing with your tools, Lana cooking (if she even cooks for you) :D


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