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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:41 pm 
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I remembered the shaft needs a couple grooves to peen the nut flange into to lock it so added those
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I decided I'd gotten a little greeted on the OD trying to get the most spline contact I could, the OD is supposed to be clearance to the spline but was rubbing so I polished off about .001 and the gear installed as a little press
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Then ream the other end. Reamers come with a chamfer cut that I just hate so I always stone a slight radius, it makes them cut a more accurate size and leaves a better finish.
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Now I need to make the broach support and a few keys so I can cut, index, repeat.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:40 pm 
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mk e wrote:
Yes, I changed it to mph which is easier to read but never posted. Here is a 90500 redline, notice the steps at the shift points. The traction limit is around 2000-2500 I'm pretty sure so 1st gear is worthless and can be ignored.
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2500... ftlbs? Torks? If that's accurate, you'll be breaking loose in 3rd when it comes up on the cam at 100mph :lol: :D :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:41 pm 
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VladTheBad wrote:
Internal splines?

Have you tried karate chopping it while recording? Seems to work for ThisOldTony on youtube....


Hit it with your purse? :idea:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:48 pm 
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mk e wrote:
I'm getting ready mentally to make the new shaft. My lathe doesn't cut real straight so I think I'll ream the spline bore. The splines are 6mm so I can buy a broach and make an indexing bushing so I can cut the pattern but I may have a line on an EDM source so I'm going to hold off ordering for a little.


I have a wire EDM connection.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:05 pm 
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TheDarkSideOfWill wrote:

I have a wire EDM connection.


It would need to be a sinker, its not a through feature that can be wired.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:11 pm 
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TheDarkSideOfWill wrote:
mk e wrote:
Yes, I changed it to mph which is easier to read but never posted. Here is a 90500 redline, notice the steps at the shift points. The traction limit is around 2000-2500 I'm pretty sure so 1st gear is worthless and can be ignored.
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2500... ftlbs? Torks? If that's accurate, you'll be breaking loose in 3rd when it comes up on the cam at 100mph :lol: :D :mrgreen:


I multipled the engine torque in ft-lbs time the gear ration, so it should still be ft-lbs I guess. 3rd gear probably will spin too, for sure the last blower motor would take it loose in 3rd. I shifted the gear ratios 24% with the drop gear change but this engine has about 25% more torque than the last so it kind of works out to spinning in 3rd I think.

Once its running right the plan is direct some money to stickier tires which should help.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:35 pm 
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mk e wrote:
TheDarkSideOfWill wrote:

I have a wire EDM connection.


It would need to be a sinker, its not a through feature that can be wired.


Until I saw your pics of working on it, I wasn't clear on which gear was damaged or needed to be replaced.

Not feasible to bolt the lower gear to the input shaft of the transmission so that the transmission bearings react the axial thrust?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:42 pm 
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TheDarkSideOfWill wrote:

Not feasible to bolt the lower gear to the input shaft of the transmission so that the transmission bearings react the axial thrust?


The V12 is quite a bit longer than the V8. If I had left the drop gears in the stock location the engine would be 2" out the right side of the engine bay. there is exactly 1 place this engine will fit, and that means moving the drop gear case about 2" left.

The old setup was a longer lower gear that bolted to the trans shaft then supported radially with roller bearings. it worked fine until I melted it. That is the way all the other V12 conversions were done as well other than the first few welded the extension to the gear (with failed on at least 1 and a custom longer gear was made, Wade was involved in that repair I believe). I have made and extension and wire EDM's the gear to fit a spline on the extension to avoid welding....but after the melt down the goal this time is to use basically stock gear so it there is ever a next time, its an east fix.


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Have you contacted the guy in Australia that makes Ferrari head gaskets that work? Murray Glegg is the guy. He may have a wealth of knowledge and be able to help you with making the correct head gasket.
He made a set for the 250 I am rebuilding and they are very nice.

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MerlinTech wrote:
Have you contacted the guy in Australia that makes Ferrari head gaskets that work? Murray Glegg is the guy. He may have a wealth of knowledge and be able to help you with making the correct head gasket.
He made a set for the 250 I am rebuilding and they are very nice.


Not yet. Once I pull the head and recheck the cylinder protrusions then get serious. I had some time the other day so drew what I was thinking on the oring thought, but it's on hold for more info


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